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pan eu army proposed by MacRon

Post by ranavirus » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:50 am

MacRon the granny bonker calls for a pan eu army
Emmanuel Macron has called for the creation of a “true European army” to allow the EU defend itself from threats ranging from Donald Trump to Vladimir Putin.
The French president has pushed for closer EU defence union since coming to power last year but has been so far met with limited success amid foot-dragging by other member states.

“We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America,” Mr Macron told France’s Europe 1 radio in an interview.





European leaders push Angela Merkel for joint EU army
“When I see President Trump announcing that he’s quitting a major disarmament treaty which was formed after the 1980s Euro-missile crisis that hit Europe, who is the main victim? Europe and its security.”

The French president continued: “We will not protect the Europeans unless we decide to have a true European army.
“We need a Europe which defends itself better alone, without just depending on the United States, in a more sovereign manner.”

Mr Macron was speaking in Verdun, northeast France, as part of a week-long tour of battlefields leading up to First World War Armistice centenary commemorations on Sunday.

In what scenariois france going to war with USA
and in what scenario does france not say je me rend , in the next 5 minutes of it happening?

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Post by WilyB » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:24 am

I favor a Franco-British joint Army. The Brits can supply whiskey and baked beans and the French baguette and Beaujolais. A joint strategic command would make a lot of sense as I cannot see a scenario - in the current political context - where the Brits would not make an identical launch or not decision than the French.
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Post by jeanV » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:40 am

ranavirus wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:50 am
MacRon the granny bonker calls for a pan eu army
May, Merkel, Macron,

all names start with an 'M',

none of them has kids.

One of the two facts might explain why they do not care for the continent's future...

ranavirus wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:50 am
“We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America,” Mr Macron told France’s Europe 1 radio in an interview.
and even the United States of America?

Mr Wimp acting tough again?

Pathetic.

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Post by Mikgof » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:55 pm

jeanV wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:40 am
ranavirus wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:50 am
MacRon the granny bonker calls for a pan eu army
May, Merkel, Macron,

all names start with an 'M',

none of them has kids.

One of the two facts might explain why they do not care for the continent's future...

ranavirus wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:50 am
“We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America,” Mr Macron told France’s Europe 1 radio in an interview.
and even the United States of America?

Mr Wimp acting tough again?

Pathetic.

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A bit of an exaggeration by Macron. America is not an enemy. It's no longer an ally either thank God. It's a hostile neutral. Now we can concentrate on the reality. Russia is our main adversary so a pan European army would make sense. It's not going to happen in reality but we can have closer cooperation. Common procurement would help us all. More kit for our money.
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Post by jeanV » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:12 pm

Mikgof wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:55 pm
Russia is our main adversary so a pan European army would make sense. It's not going to happen in reality but we can have closer cooperation. Common procurement would help us all. More kit for our money.

All true statements.

Sadly, none of these necessary steps will be taken.

The cumbersome cost of carrying glorious national pasts on their shoulders.


That's also why stupid decisions like Brexit are taken...



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Post by Ami Bidasse » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:18 pm

:lol:

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Post by Soft Arrogance » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:57 pm

jeanV wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:12 pm
Mikgof wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:55 pm
Russia is our main adversary so a pan European army would make sense. It's not going to happen in reality but we can have closer cooperation. Common procurement would help us all. More kit for our money.

All true statements.

Sadly, none of these necessary steps will be taken.

The cumbersome cost of carrying glorious national pasts on their shoulders.


That's also why stupid decisions like Brexit are taken...



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Re: pan eu army proposed by MacRon

Post by Mikgof » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:03 pm

jeanV wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:12 pm
Mikgof wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:55 pm
Russia is our main adversary so a pan European army would make sense. It's not going to happen in reality but we can have closer cooperation. Common procurement would help us all. More kit for our money.

All true statements.

Sadly, none of these necessary steps will be taken.

The cumbersome cost of carrying glorious national pasts on their shoulders.


That's also why stupid decisions like Brexit are taken...



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Yep. Brexit was a stupid decision, but there is hope yet. The Leave campaigners, it turns out was nothing more than a protest group. Amazingly they had no plans at all for a vote actually going their way. They just used anti-EU sentiment as a way of berating the government of the day. As a result, the Brexit negotiations are an absolute dog's dinner. Whatever mishmash that they eventually come up with is from necessity going to have to be put to a referendum. A referendum that will vote to reject any deal to leave, and we'll vote to remain in the EU.

The Leave campaigners can hardly object to a further dose of democracy, especially as they quite literally conned us into voting their way. It's safe to assume that if people were aware that the Leave campaign had no idea what to do when they won the referendum, millions of us who voted to leave would have voted remain. That would still leave a way for Brexit further down the line but this time with firm, constructive policies not wishy-washy pie in the sky dreams.
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Re: pan eu army proposed by MacRon

Post by jeanV » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:38 pm

Mikgof wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:03 pm
Yep. Brexit was a stupid decision, but there is hope yet. The Leave campaigners, it turns out was nothing more than a protest group. Amazingly they had no plans at all for a vote actually going their way. They just used anti-EU sentiment as a way of berating the government of the day. As a result, the Brexit negotiations are an absolute dog's dinner. Whatever mishmash that they eventually come up with is from necessity going to have to be put to a referendum. A referendum that will vote to reject any deal to leave, and we'll vote to remain in the EU.

The Leave campaigners can hardly object to a further dose of democracy,


The Leave campaigners can hardly object to a further dose of democracy?

Sadly, you're totally wrong (as you were, if I dare remind you thereof, when you voted Brexit).


One of my grandfathers' life lessons: Most major mistakes are committed out of pride.


The Brexit vote was out of pride.

May's adamant refusal of a second referendum ditto (party politics).


That's the way boats sink, and that nobody will stand up for a Europe united against the muslim invasion...

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Re: pan eu army proposed by MacRon

Post by ranavirus » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:45 am

Wily you are an intelligent sophisticated person
wtf is whiskey that the Brits are supplying?

we can only ever supply whisky , though I believe the paddies make a little whiskey

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Re: pan eu army proposed by MacRon

Post by Slappy » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:06 pm

first the germans are going to need more than broom stick guns
Frum has more ammo than the entire German armed forces
German army used broomsticks instead of guns during training
A German battalion assigned to Nato's rapid response force used broomstick handles instead of guns on a joint exercise due to chronic equipment shortages

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Post by jeanV » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:12 pm

Slappy wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:06 pm
A German battalion assigned to Nato's rapid response force used broomstick handles instead of guns on a joint exercise due to chronic equipment shortages

About half of France's warplanes, helicopters and MBTs are grounded for lack of spare parts.

Just like its only air carrier is at dock half of the time for mechanical maintenance.


Turkey and Russia, please engage in war only when the Charles de Gaulle is up and about.

Oh, and please provide advance warning so that the brass might order the missing MBT spare parts.

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Re: pan eu army proposed by MacRon

Post by Mikgof » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:34 pm

jeanV wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:12 pm
Slappy wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:06 pm
A German battalion assigned to Nato's rapid response force used broomstick handles instead of guns on a joint exercise due to chronic equipment shortages

About half of France's warplanes, helicopters and MBTs are grounded for lack of spare parts.

Just like its only air carrier is at dock half of the time for mechanical maintenance.


Turkey and Russia, please engage in war only when the Charles de Gaulle is up and about.

Oh, and please provide advance warning so that the brass might order the missing MBT spare parts.

:roll:
That is finally being addressed, and about bleeding time. The best weapons in the world are nothing but scrap metal if they're stuck in service bays waiting to be repaired. Britain is finally updating the Challenger 2. Again about bleeding time. In fact, our armed forces are doing quite well at the moment. HMS QE is a fantastic bit of kit. Due to the unique design and automation, it can perform 70% of the sorties per day of that of the much larger Gerald R Ford class. And at a little over a quarter of the price, it's a bargain. At the relatively bargain price of £3.1 Billion we really should have built 3 of them, preferably 4.
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Re: pan eu army proposed by MacRon

Post by Ami Bidasse » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:00 am

Germaine said Macconcon tu nous pompes ! :lol:

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Re: pan eu army proposed by MacRon

Post by ranavirus » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:13 am

slappy a Germa unit with broomsticks vs a French unit with guns who wins?

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Post by Soft Arrogance » Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:48 am

ranavirus wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:13 am
slappy a Germa unit with broomsticks vs a French unit with guns who wins?
Germa ….?,???
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Re: pan eu army proposed by MacRon

Post by ranavirus » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:56 am

someone stole an n ,
who was it ?

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Re: pan eu army proposed by MacRon

Post by Soft Arrogance » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:54 am

ranavirus wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:56 am
someone stole an n ,
who was it ?
Pourquoi tant de "N". (Fucking French pun)
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